Why the selection of Pope matters to everyone in the world

It is up to citizens and believers to support good rulers and good Pastors, so that they can finally bring justice to this global coup that threatens all of humanity.

Arcivescovo Carlo Maria Vigano

The War Room’s Steve Bannon recently interviewed Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò.

Steve Bannon: Recently, a group of American Catholics asked President Trump to investigate whether the US Government was involved in the sequence of events that resulted in the resignation of Pope Benedict XVI on February 11, 2013, and the subsequent conclave that elected Francis on March 13, 2013. You recently called for the Trump Administration to “investigate the Deep State Plan to eliminate Benedict XVI.” Do you believe that the Obama/Biden Administration meddled in the abdication of Pope Benedict XVI and the election of Jorge Bergoglio? If so, why?

Archbishop Viganò: If we were not talking about the Church – or, to be more precise, the Vatican – but rather about any sovereign nation, the evidence of a coup d’état would not be questioned by anyone. On the other hand, we know that the deep state has interfered several times in the government of many different nations, and that it continues to do so through its emissaries. Just in the past few days, Cardinal Burke has denounced the attempt of “President” Macron to put pressure on the college of cardinals to prevent the election of a conservative pope who would question the policies of the European Union.

From John Podesta’s emails released by Wikileaks we know that the scheme adopted in the civil sphere to foment “color revolutions” was slavishly replicated in the ecclesiastical sphere as well.

The modus operandi is the same: the deep state finances ideological movements and social pressure groups through USAID and other government agencies to simulate dissent against the Magisterium of the Catholic Church and thus be able to put pressure on the hierarchy to adopt reforms, always in a “progressive” sense. At the same time, the part of the hierarchy that is complicit in this subversive operation uses this “virtual” dissent to legitimize reforms that no one is asking for: female priesthood, legitimization of sodomy, apparent democratization of authority through the “synodalization” of the monarchical papacy, etc.

Everything is therefore based on the false premise that there is a problem (one that is artificially created and is absolutely not perceived by the Christian people), which can be remedied with the solution offered (which in ordinary conditions could not even be taken into consideration).

Such interference in the government of the Catholic Church reached the point of theorizing the need to replace the then-reigning Pontiff, Benedict XVI, with an emissary of the deep state who would carry out its subversive plan. And that is exactly what actually happened shortly thereafter: Benedict XVI was forced to resign; Jorge Mario Bergoglio was elected at the 2013 “conclave”; and this Argentine Jesuit actually carried out the orders he had received. I also note, en passant, that in the background of this disturbing scenario, there is a consistent element: all of the protagonists of the coup belonged to the pedophile elite: from Obama to McCarrick, Hillary Clinton, John Podesta, and the Bidens...

It is therefore absolutely essential for the new US Administration – in which Vice President JD Vance is a practicing Catholic – to investigate these aspects and brings to light how the previous Administrations were involved. We know they were accomplices and promoters not only of the Vatican coup, but also of other similar foreign and internal operations – I am thinking first of all of the electoral fraud of 2020.

Once the evidence and the names of the guilty parties are available, the Catholic Hierarchy will not be able to ignore facts of political relevance by using the excuse that these are “merely canonical issues.”

Steve Bannon: Who do you think played a critical role in that coup? How would evidence of foreign interference in a papal election affect the Catholic Church practically and canonically?

Archbishop Viganò: This coup is part of a wider global coup organized by the subversive lobby of the woke left (on the ideological front) and the World Economic Forum (on the financial front). Its aim is the destruction of every form of resistance against the establishment of the New World Order, the establishment of governments totally controlled by an elite of technocrats, and the establishment of a new Religion of Humanity that gives doctrinal and moral foundations to the globalist dystopia. In the minds of these criminals devoted to the Antichrist – because it is the kingdom of the Antichrist that we are talking about – Bergoglio was to be the first “pope” of the new ecumenical and synodal church prepared since Vatican II. And it is precisely because of this total heterogeneity even with respect to his immediate predecessors (and even with respect to the most progressive of these) that Bergoglio cannot be considered to have been pope of the Catholic Church.

It is clear that, if this interference in the 2013 conclave could be demonstrated, it would entail the nullity of the election and the illegitimacy of Bergoglio’s papacy. This would be in effect a great reset, because it would annul all of Bergoglio’s acts of magisterium and government, from his heretical “encyclicals” to his appointments of bishops and cardinals.

Before the upcoming conclave begins, it is essential to verify that the members of the College of Cardinals are actually legitimate, because anyone claiming to be elected pope by the conclave will otherwise see their legitimacy compromised.

Steve Bannon: On July 1, 2025, the Archdiocese of Detroit will close down 28 thriving Latin Mass parishes by order of the newly appointed Archbishop Edward Weisenburger. What advice do you have for Traditional Catholics who attend those masses? With the widespread suppression of thriving Latin Masses in the United States and around the world, how are Catholics to respond? Should they resist?

Archbishop Viganò: Hatred for the traditional Mass is one of the hallmarks of the enemies of Christ. This hatred is certainly motivated by the fact that the Latin Mass leaves no room for errors and heresies that oppose the truths of Catholic Dogma.

It is significant that it is precisely bishops and cardinals obsessively fixated on “synodality” who trample on the will of millions of Catholics who ask only to be able to have access to the Mass of all time. This exposes the deception of those who fill their mouths with high-sounding slogans about the active participation of the faithful (“actuosa participatio”) and about the role of the laity in the Church – so much proclaimed by the Council – with the sole purpose of taking away authority from the good Pastors and transferring it to new tyrants.

The Catholic faithful – and along with them priests, bishops, and religious – have the right not to be defrauded of the Apostolic Mass, which Our Lord entrusted to the Church to be safeguarded and transmitted without arbitrary changes. This right existed before the imposition of the Novus Ordo by Paul VI, and was reaffirmed by Benedict XVI’s Motu Proprio Summorum Pontificum, which not by chance Bergoglio practically suppressed with Traditionis Custodes.

I remind Catholics that one of the most effective tools to coerce their Pastors consists in allocating their financial offerings only to those Dioceses and communities in which they are truly given the possibility of remaining Catholic. When Their Excellencies find themselves without the money of the faithful on the one hand and without government funding from USAID on the other, they will be forced to choose to do anyway what should have been their duty right from the beginning.

Steve Bannon: In 2023, the Biden Administration, through the FBI, launched a campaign against traditional Catholics who attend the Latin Mass, labeling them “racially or ethnically motivated violent extremists (RMVEs) among radical-traditionalist Catholics (RTC), an ideology that almost certainly presents opportunities for threat mitigation through the exploration of new avenues for tripwire and source development,” In your opinion, why would federal law enforcement target peaceful traditional Catholics as violent extremists? What could possibly be the motivation of law enforcement motivation to systemically target Latin Mass attendees? Could this harassment stem from Bergoglio’s decree Traditionis Custodes and his suppression of the Latin Mass? Is there a connection?

Archbishop Viganò: Saint Pius X said that true Catholics are those faithful to Tradition, and he was absolutely right; so much so that they are also the only ones who are not liked by the enemies of the Church, while the self-styled “adult Catholics,” – so-called progressives, “liberal Catholics,” “woke Catholics” – are highly appreciated. If Bergoglio managed to obtain so much admiration from those who detest the Catholic Church and the papacy, it is because the elite considered him “one of their own,” equally revolutionary, equally imbued with Masonic philanthropism, equally ecumenical, syncretistic, inclusive, green, and woke.

We have reached the zenith of a paradox in which the civil power usurped by traitors of the deep state is allied with the religious power usurped by traitors of the deep church. It is therefore not surprising that the “secular arm” has come to the aid of the Bergoglian church, targeting Bergoglio’s enemies – that is, true Catholics – because it also considers them enemies of woke society and the globalist elite.

Now, however, with the election of Donald Trump in the United States of America, the infernal machine of the New World Order has somehow jammed, putting into crisis a system of corruption, conflicts of interest, and blackmail that seemed to work perfectly. At a time when the deep state is losing power in civil society, the deep church is also retreating within the Catholic Church, because they are two sides of the same coin. It is up to citizens and believers to support good rulers and good Pastors, so that they can finally bring justice to this global coup that threatens all of humanity.

Wow, I guess I was onto something when I started calling Bergoglio the Fake Pope.